ROSÉ: The rosie Interview | Apple Music – YouTube Dictation Transcript & Vocabulary

1.I can call you Rosie now right you given us a green light to call you Rosie yes you may very generous Have you listened to the album come on then you [Music] may thank you for flying in thank you for doing this I know it's hectic right now you've got a lot going on you asked for this but doesn't change the fact that you've still got a lot going on and you made time for it so we appreciate it thank you so much oh my gosh no I'm I'm super grateful uh that you guys have invited me me to um talk about my album and I L I'm like pinching myself feel like this is a dream yeah I mean I you know I think that's that's what happens when you put a lot of your heart and soul into something and then all of a sudden it arrives and we all assume it arrives for us but it also arrives for you because in a way I guess it doesn't feel real until people listen to it in some respects no literally when I walked in and you guys were playing the the song I've never had somebody play it for me I would always play it for somebody I don't think I noticed how much I've been waiting for this moment until I hear like you guys play it and in New York I had uh my first promotion week and um can I tell you the craziest story tell me all the crazy story it was just so funny because I was doing the first interview and it was not um it was like a one of those pre- inters um so I guess production asks for like a pre- intervie oh like tell us some stories you going to tell us before we do the thing you tell us the stories yes and so that's what we were doing that was the first thing I did as soon as I landed in New York and I woke up and I was like okay first first thing and then we get on the zoom and then they're like how do you feel about promoting the album and about your album coming out and I I was just like um and I ended up crying I say you burst into tears I ended up crying for the the Whole 30 minutes I was like I was actually like was the most embarrassing thing I've ever I'm laughing because I'm not surprised it's such a big question for someone who's spent a year or two years making something and it's such a simple observation but it's like I really wasn't ready for the simplest question yeah no that's when I noticed I was like okay okay I can give credit for myself cuz I think obviously it was not a smooth ride and it just showed how much you know time and effort and Blood and Tears I actually did put into it and that was the moment where I I I allowed myself to acknowledge the fact that I am really proud that I'm at the point of promoting it so it really means a lot to me apparently apparently internally your voice is telling you it means a lot to you and now we're experiencing that too I mean it makes me think about like the observation that some artists have which is when I make something I'm going through it when I'm ready to release it I'm through it and then we sort of get to listen to it for the first time and we assume you're still going through it are you a different person today now the album is coming out than you were when you started making oh completely I literally think this album is just a rep like a little capsule it's like a little T like it's like when I listen to my songs I remember every minute of it and I like went through everything and without this album I think I would have carried a lot of the past version of myself um through till today cuz to be honest like I'm not really I'm not doing it was like a therapy session um and I never so I've bottled it up into this thing called Rosie and so I've walked out of every single studio with a story and walked out feeling like I left it in that song There are some days where it's like okay that don't like that song yeah and the emotion bounced back back into me and I felt like that didn't really get the story out so in that case those songs actually didn't make it to the album but every single song that has made it to the album purpose yeah served a purpose in my life actually and literally and um there are days where I'm like wow I don't talk about that anymore like ever since that session I don't talk about it anymore until today we're going to go through song by song taking her back through every single painful trauma miss my job ladies and gentlemen buckle up here we go it's Rosie the revised experience no I'm just kidding I mean some things will will definitely maybe come up in conversation because the music is very real and I said that to you when I met you before the cameras I said I in the performance of these songs which I'm really attuned to is how someone sounds where they're singing them there are times I feel like you've caught Yourself by surprise with the emotion of Performing that particular song do you remember those moments where you sang outside of what would be considered a conventional performance and it was like oh I'm em moting something I wasn't expecting oh yeah I think the more and more I was in the studio I learned slowly um so at first it start with like started with a lot of anxiety cuz um there's this thing I say to myself I was like I always think confidence equals like I can only think of a Korean word right now just say it it's F which is talent I honestly the more confidence I have the more um space I get to show Talent like I don't think like Talent is like Talent is such a it's it's a bit of an interesting word because the more confidence somebody has like like you can play around with it and stuff but at the very beginning I didn't have much of it cuz I had so much anxiety in the studio and I was obviously was not comfortable in the studio yet about being vulnerable and showing my emotions the most fun part about this whole process of creating this album is that I think near the end of it I kind of mastered that you know the pushing through the anxiety and you knew you could I started creating things like and my producer when I went back to Korea I hadn't recorded him with him for like over a year um he was shocked he was like Rosie you're like you really you're nailing this like instantly you don't even take you take that like one to two takes and you're already there and like the tone is like you you've kind of mastered that this new texture and tone to your voice um and so I was like really um I felt really happy about it but I I had started to like have fun in the studio like near the end right now even still I'm supposed to wrap up the album you want to keep going huh yeah I literally kind of had to sort myself I added these like last two and I think one for the deluxe somebody was like let's just put that for the deluxe then cuz it's like we loved it so much and I was like oh my gosh I think I know the two songs you're referring to and I really like both of them really yeah and I can tell actually that you know those two songs feel it's funny cuz it feels a bit different right it does in a weird way certainly the the the last song on the record which is the uptempo one the additional one the uptempo one the deluxe yeah yeah yeah there's just a sense of I suppose a like you say freedom in the way you're approaching it that that I think is in in the middle of the record when I when I can really feel and everyone will hear that you're going through something you capture it really well it's nice to get to the end and feel like you got through it yes no I think that's like the best feeling and that's when I was like do I have to jump on the next one now cuz I want to capture these moments and well that's my question actually is is when the last black pink tour came to its natural conclusion did you feel any pressure from outside of yourself to make a solo album was there even a reality where you wouldn't dive into the studio and make your proper full length debut first I felt pressured to be honest um we were kind of coming off of the the year-long tour and um you know us as black pink as mature as we are we got together and decided Well let's promise ourselves a good year to be inspired you know we've we've worked so hard for the past past eight years and we've done I honestly believe we've done so well and I'm so proud but you know we we all you know got together and just promised ourselves a a good year to work on all all this stuff and um the first thing that happened was anxiety because you know I got I was privileged to have this one year in my hands to do whatever I wanted with it but I wanted it to be the right decision and it had to it had to feel right and I was getting anxiety like from the get-go I think I had anxiety all through now I'm kind of excited but um and so yeah at the beginning it started like that uh but self-imposed pressure though a sense of like what if I don't find it yes and what if I don't believe in it and I don't feel it yes that's the biggest fear I think I had I think doing it like there were so many opportunities I'm I'm so grateful for that but what if I don't believe in my thing and what if I'm in a place where I'm having to do things that I don't feel like it's me yeah because everyone says it's good enough and you know it's not yeah and I wanted to be truthful right and so but I just went okay I'm just going to start it like I have not really ever been in like the building process of an album before but you know a start is everything as they say so let's start starting and ending starting and ending everything in the middle is is a joy and you can do it with in front of nobody if you really want to but you got to start it you got to make a commitment to yourself and then you got to be able to finish it yeah so I I I threw myself in and I remember telling um my co-writers and producers I was like I am so anxious they're like why are you so anxious and they were they have guided me through this process so much and I'm so grateful um but I remember walking out of like the first few sessions being like like I'm actually surprised I think I might be a like I think this proves to myself no one else just to myself that I might be able to just work at this and and then my friends and family started supporting me when I was like and I was still shy about it I was like I wrote this song with a few people and they'd be like ruy you should build this up and I doubted myself even still but they were like just do it just go at it just go back to LA just fly back book the hotel get an Airbnb just go and do it and I did it and I stuck to it for a few months and then a few months led to like like two months led to three months four five and then in the middle of it I found a label and I I made sure I made decisions the way I felt like it was right and then here I am today congratulations thank you I mean we can't take it for granted that just because you're in a successful collaborative experience with your friends and you had you have had enormous success I think we see that and we equate that to confidence but you're right it's different when you've got got to find your own voice and figure out also having a voice that you've got to be collaborative in a band right you got to figure out when do I turn my voice on and when do I turn it off or turn it down or be a part of the group and so did you when at what point in this process did you find a different Power a different feeling in your voice that you hadn't been able to really use for a long time if at all I think at the very beginning it was still a little hard cuz again I like I said I was kind of pushing through confidence like I had people in the room who like who were like just they probably listen to good music all the time and and record amazing musicians all the time so I had a little bit of confidence to push through but then by the time it was like back toback sessions and I was like building on songs that felt personal to me and when I started expressing these things and creating within that world I think I started pushing through and I mean I can't pinpoint what song cuz there's also a lot of songs that I've dropped I think of number one girl as a pretty big Turning Point vocally definitely it's one of those emotionally too though emotionally too that was the day I wrote I wrote that we wrote that song the day after I went to this event i' been to so many glamorous events and I felt so grateful that I'm at these events but I didn't feel like fulfilled I felt like I was chasing after something that like what am I chasing after and I felt so empty and I remember feeling so miserable but um and then that night I ended up finding myself on social media to like cuz that'll help help cuz that helps right no it's like let me go to an event feel like I'm totally one of many people in the crowd I don't feel special or unique at all let me go on social media and see how well everyone else is doing great and then I end up smack that thank you my mental health is like we're we're there you're there yeah um no and then I end up looking for all these comments that are just going to obviously Shatter Me and I found myself and I was like I hate I hate this like oh my gosh and I remember walking up the next day and I was like I want to write a song that's just like so honest I'm so disappointed in myself that I've actually cuz I I think I've grown up being like be confident in yourself when people say things to you don't let it get to you and it really didn't get to me for a while but I did to be honest that night feel like I hated the fact that I that this one person with this yeah had this power and I was so obsessed with these people who were not nice to me and who really didn't know me but I was so obsessed with them so I was like I want to write an obsessive song about and talk about this emotion of really wanting to be loved by by somebody and this vulnerability and I wanted to be so disg disgustingly honest I was telling Amy that was in the room I was like I wanted to be disgustingly honest and she' like and we' like Amy Yellen she's like I can do that yeah that's what I do and I'd be like more no I like I just don't want it to be sugar cred at all I don't want to even act confident here can I read some of the lyrics yes please tell me I'm a little angel sweetheart of your city say what say what I'm dying to hear cuz I'm dying to hear you tell me that I'm that new thing tell me that I'm relevant that's brilliant and then it gets really like deep tell me that I've got a big heart then back it up with evidence That's Heavy cuz what that says is like tell me that I've got a big heart right tell me that I that I I have some kind of emotional resonance here that I'm somebody that's worthy of just what what you see or what you hear about me but then give me a reason why that's true yeah even convince me it's so selfish in a strange way right convince me also cuz even if people say nice things I also want to know if you really mean it give I I don't know I'm pretty have you heard the album have you heard the you call me Rosie give me the evidence you need to straight face it longer next time you got to do that to everybody I won't be I won't be the thanks I won't be the first person who says to you uh can I call you Rosie now just be like have you heard the album did you hear the album and I'll wait for like 5 Seconds go in Just Go up no I love that song and I and I it's it's interesting because everyone who hears it will be like who's it about is it about me is it about me as a fan is it about me you know the does it speak to me the way I want someone to speak to me about my life does it resonate in my life but it's kind of about everyone that's the crazy thing about it it's about the sensable I took it as the sensable desire to be loved I I think it repres represents every toxic relationship toxic meaning like an unhealthy amount of Love towards somebody or a group of people or whoever that it's to I'm making it toxic because I want to be loved by that person the the feeling of one to be accepted it's just a representation of that and I've not just experienced that like that night I've experienced with many people like just being wanting like even a girl in the room like I just want to be accepted by like she's so cool like what will it take for you to to love me which is not anyone else's problem that's the crazy thing like when we get to that point in our lives where we put so much of our own identity work in the hands of others we're we're missing the real golden opportunity I think which is to which is to actually cut through and learn to love ourselves a little bit more you know yeah but I'm I'm here 27 still working on it obviously if anything some days or Worse same I think I was better when I was 19 I was bad at 19 because everyone's well we're just better at pretending when we're 19 I think well right we're all just trying to sort of pretend our way through every awkward situation that life presents cuz we're so alert and aware of them then right we're so like oh my God this is horrible I'm going to be the best person I can possibly pretend to be maybe that's what it is you know I think a lot of it and then you know you get to see the world and no one's seen the world the way you've seen the world and I I really appreciate how this album is um there's a lot of internal thinking going on here on this record and it's not just all the things things I've seen and all the experiences I've witnessed vicariously as I've toured the world multiple times and had the kind of experience only three other girls can really relate to right other women you know you've really done a lot of self-work in this record and there's a lot of really brutal honest writing in here yeah I it's just all the things that obviously as what we are you know is black pink it's all the things like I would love to share with my I think um my fans are like I should feel closer to them but some subjects I I don't get to talk about every day um because you know people like to say things and it be it causes drama and everything but I think a lot of that is like in you know voices in inside of me it's just me who I am as a person and my friends and family when they hear it when I play it and they're like this is so you Rosie oh my God this is so you this is what we hear about every day and it's just what I talk about with my friends and family put into an album so that we can all share it and hopefully my fans feel closer to me yeah closeness is a is a theme on this record right this idea of wanting to eliminate the distance that I think really success can create not really it just it just happens naturally I think right and I think that it's clear that you know just by by calling the album Rosie and saying this is what my friends and family call me that you want to feel closer to your to your fans through this process I really do that was good especially last year a good few months where I was like I was craving that so bad but there was nothing nothing I could do at that time I just want to give them the best all the time um and there were really good few months of feeling like that craving for the closeness with the fans and I really did Channel it and so I'm so grateful for the opportunities that I've had in the studio um that I could channel that in into my music so in a way is number one girl kind of almost a tribute too as much as it's toxic it's kind of it's kind of a message isn't it I'm yeah it it really it started there um but we made sure that it contained a universal feeling which it is I could relate to that after like say I have a breakup next year I could turn it on and I could Channel it in let's hope not after hearing this album's cop because I think you've obviously been through one as well I mean ladies and gentlemen the X mean the X I mean it's there there are lyrics that that sometimes just they they they sort of um they're more visceral than others that song was actually supposed to be called the ex we you started writing it being like Oh my God it's about time we've talked about the X a bit too much it's about time that we write a song called The X but then we came up with a better punchline so we did great punch line so we put it in the in the in that section we're like I need to talk about it's but but it's also what's cool about it is that the song ends up becoming somewhat self aware too and like at the end of any relationship you take a bit of accountability for all of that too and even for the decisions you make whether you thought that were smart or not and later on it's like all right maybe I need to Jud judge people a little bit better than I have but that song in particular um is is kind of really at the heart of a lot of the subject matter which is like you know sort of classic sort of Playbook done very personally uniquely through that experience that that many people don't get to write about that idea of having something and losing something that meant a lot to you um was it tough to sort of be as open about that as as you have been on the record what were some of the challenges you found about really writing from the heart I think that was like a something that was living living with me for a few years I don't personally don't think I deserved it but it it just it was it was there like I'm actually shocked that to this like today I can wake up and be like I don't talk about that anymore because I'm grateful that I got to do this album because I used to talk about it so much so when you ask if it was hard it was very easy for me to talk about it because it was something I was talking about all the time all the time yeah yeah so just transfer into song mode yeah and I'd go and be like what do you want and I'd hate it but I'd never like the person to know about it but I would talk about it so much do not want to give credit to the person but I talk about it and it it's just the easiest it was the easiest cuz it like I needed to get it off my chest and we talk about it all the time they like they like what are you talking about I was talking about the X the X yeah yeah again and they like okay Ros you do it again I'll be like I got more yeah got more don't worry about it don't worry about it we're not done with the X yeah so it wasn't that difficult yeah it was it was yeah it was good it was easy is there a song where you really feel like it it it finally closed the loop on that on that chapter in your life I think Game Boy was the last one that was me Game Boy was the last one and I was like oh my God I I was actually excited that day cuz I was like I felt like I had to squeeze it out other days I'd just be like it'd be at the tip of my tongue like all these like I'm like oh my God this would be perfect for that line I have so many ideas but that one I we had to squeeze it out I was like wow I've come to a point where I have to squeeze this out I'm like I'm so happy about your time is over X you're done and that was the last one yeah look I mean I think a lot of people will really um will really applaud and really appreciate the honesty on this record because it's something if you're lucky you go you go through that I know it's a strange thing to say but it's part of the human experience and the the more it hurts the more you felt it right mhm you work with some amazing people on this record I mean the list is great but I also think it's really important to point out that you know you wrote or co-wrote all the songs where you know we're involved in the production right across the board um I think a lot gets put into this idea of of people with talent and ability who can perform at a high level ultimately giving a lot of that responsibility to other people and that does happen but you must have loved being able to take some real control over your destiny creatively in all ways for sure at first I like I said I I had I was worried because I I am the type of person to say like there there are people who are Professionals for certain things because of a reason you know they're professional so like sometimes it's best not to that's fine you don't have to turn around to Omar feed and be like I got this guitar lck Omar don't worry about it I'm in control you know I mean let's leave let's leave Omar with the guitar that one yeah it's all for of course and so that's why like I was very shy but um they really helped me push through that and you know they'd always be like like it made me feel so comfortable and that's how like I ended up feeling so comfortable in the studio and then um later on I noticed how much I wanted a certain sound for this album I noticed how anal I was with that um and it was like a year of discovering like oh wow I have an idea it's somewhere in there I just need to get it out I need to keep going back at it um have a lot of bad examples of like that's not it if you talk to any of them they know Rosie says no to a lot of I'm like that's not it and it's like it's hard to articulate it but we push through and we always end up with something Rosie your that's not it is pretty iconic I have to say we might have to put that on the soundboard of the show that's not it I've he that's not it I've had a couple of that good that's not it's from people it's definitely up there guys that's not it yeah that's what I said started doing a lot of that but so how did you know what was it was it a feeling it's really hard to tell but it's a way of executing the story it's like there's certain words that that describe it but then there's certain words that that ruin the magic of it so it's just all it's it feels like puzzle it's like it's like you have to put the puzzle piece in that section to figure out if it fits or not you can't tell just by looking because they all look very similar you have to put it on it and and kind of like try put it in until you realize oh that's the right puzzle piece so kind it was a lot of that and put a lot of brain power into it because it needed to feel right I needed to go home that day with a balance on my phone and be able to listen to it is the best feeling when it works isn't it the best the monitor mix I'm surprised anybody ever does anything more than what they do when they put things through a monitor at the end of of of a demo day cuz it always to me it never sounds better than that first few hours I agree ever ever and then you have to let someone else tell you it sounds better cuz I'm like nah it still sounds good four months ago oh my God Story of My Life yeah but I mean yeah and then I have to learn to let that go as well cuz sometimes there's I don't know maybe I'll put an album out that's like fully demo i' be like nobody touched anything and like I don't even know what a demo is anymore when you're a kid and you're making music in your bedroom through a computer and you're happy with how it sounds I don't even know what a demo anymore I mean half the time I think that's the magic that's the magic right you know yeah it's like Rick Ruben says you know this is my vision this is what I would like to share with you and then it's up to you whether you like it but i' I've done my job I've shared my vision I'm kind of fascinated to know a little bit about how you've sort of navigated this really high pressure experience of showing up at the highest level and performing with great success with your friends and kind of been dealing with this kind of growing lack of confidence that really showed itself when you came off the road um were you aware of that before you came off the road did you feel it building up in you that there was this kind of this hill you were going to have to climb in order to get over that um I think at the beginning of anything it's the fear uh like that's where you lack conf cuz like when you start something like it's like a baby learning how to walk you don't know but because I think had more fear because we were doing like world tours and I'm in places where people are you know there to celebrate our success and do you have time to be afraid when it's like that to be honest I've been like training we did a full year on it so I think it got better towards the end of it but then to get off of that you know something that was perfected you know every day and had to repeat it and master it you know and then we're there even at the beginning of the tour I was nervous I was like glck of confidence and I have to go through all that struggle to find to be at the place of confidence but for this one too it was so scary cuz I've never been taught to be like to to that's not something that I trained I trained like everything else like had to be on stage how to like you know everything but that's not something I I really had much helped you know doing in the past so that's the part that was scary but when you were growing up if if the story from what I've I've read about you that you know you used to spend a lot of time just on your own playing the piano and just kind of leaning into your own natural voice and what do you wanted to how you want to express yourself before you were even a recording AR or anything of that nature Did you sort of find a way to kind of do you think you tap back into that a little bit even subliminally or subconsciously as you were moving forward maybe I have never actually thought about that before but if I think about it like cuz like Australia you know there's it's not city like there's not much going on and there much and so I'd be go to school come home then and I was just like a really quiet I wasn't like crazy I didn't have like like crazy friends and like we didn't go out hang out after just like kind of my mom would pick me up and go home my sister would be somewhere doing her own thing I just like been sat in front of this piano um and what more entertainment is there to than to just I think you I guess that's what got me into it and I'd be like bored and I'd be watching TV and there people like I'd watch a movie I watched Dream Girls I had watched that and I was like I was so moved at how she would sing that song listen and I'd go to the computer and search chords I had been learning how to play piano my mom taught like you know got me lessons and stuff and I hated it but what I got out of that was I knew how to play on so I'd like print them out and I'd like try sing it and like channel into like the emotion that I watched on the TV and so you know that and I think probably obviously as I was doing that I was probably finding ways of expressing this emotion this big I am so I was so little I don't know big emotions like that but as I was watching it I was like you know learning from it and I think that got me to like obviously practice and lean into this emotion um that I have and match it uh and I'm thinking maybe that really helped me into because even when I record I always think like what character am I playing where am I at in the scene of the song Sometimes I write it because it was my thing but then when I go in I don't feel that there and then so I'm like so what is it where am I and I sometimes have to create characters in my head and scenarios um most of the time I think I do that that's something I've built recently I put myself in a scene yeah and I imagine like if I'm looking here I imagine if it's like oh I sound like a really scary person right not at all I sound really weird no and I tell you why cuz I'm I'm really I'm really locked into this answer I'm really into this answer I tell you why because I think that when you're writing something so personal when you're writing a song like Call of the end or not the same right and you're like hey I've got to find a way to sort of conjure up how I felt at the time that really inspired these words but you can't just do that on a call actors can actors can actors can find a moment in a scene draw something from their life and deliver it in front of camera to make us believe it's real so in many respects it's actually a shortcut I'd imagine to you getting to the emotional place you need to that you it's a tool no I've eventually actually noticed that it's like very similar to acting cuz at first it was really hard but I kind of you know I had to record like every day that's what I take from it anyway I think it's a tool right it's it's like it really is you want me to sing like I did about eight months ago or what's that movie look like yeah I think it is you signed uh your record deal and um I believe that like Bruno was pretty encouraging about that as well and Bruno's kind of being there for you at times to sort of help give you little bits of advice or at least just kind of like a point in the right direction when you've asked for it is that is that is that true no it's it's true it's really weird I'm like what's happening what's my life right now because it's Bruno Mar and not like John Thompson down the road the whole thing started because I was a like I became a fan like a year ago and he he traveled to Korea for his soul show in Soul um and I was like I'm the biggest Bruno M fan I didn't know I knew all the lyrics to 50 of his song he has that subliminal effect on people I tell you the amount of times you put on the radio and someone you wouldn't pick like I'll be with my like 82y old dad and he'll just be like when you smile a look at you you're amazing I'm like oh you know that dead what the hell has that a effect on on people and so it's it's crazy but he's been really uh like he's been the best yeah he has I mean but you know he also recognizes in you something that's that's amazing too and that must be really in terms of like that confidence that you need I mean that's that's good stuff the first day I met him I was like we were saying some stuff and I was like well so do you want to listen to some of the cuz he he asked me so I heard you working on the album how's it going I like and I was like well do you want to have a listen and he's like wow I was like he was like Rosie he a hustler like oh damn it he read it and so he takes one to no one I mean he would have just been like what took you so long I'm ready to mix this thing and so I was like yeah and then yeah fast forward yeah now we have the song song number six with Bruno Mar can you pronounce it for me please so what is this drinking game it's a Korean drinking game that literally everyone especially everyone like around my age and I would say younger um plays when they drink it's actually a game I grew up like I played it the most I think 20 20 21 22 23 maybe by the way you're lucky we don't have lucky here I tell you you better get ready for every single late night talk show you're about to go on where every single host is be like well we're going to play this game with you right now Bring it on Bring it on so what are the rules the rules are it's just it's really simple um just like if you CU usually you gather around in like a circle and you're drinking and talking right and then and so if it's my game I say Rosie's favorite and as I sing everybody joins in random game game start and everybody sings and because it's my game I would scream out the floor number so I'd be like seven everyone puts their hand Stacks their hands in the middle you go one from bottom up one 2 3 four 5 six and whoever lands on the seventh it's like bam take the shot bam so it's really simple but the chant is fun to do the chant is fun to do and I can imagine after like maybe 15 rounds of a it starts to get a little bit blurry as well yeah yeah it's great it's a great Moment On The Record and it's kind of um it's interesting because it it's a little bit of a um it's a it's kind of a trick it plays a trick on us because it it's it tells us that you're making really inventive really modern pop music but it doesn't prepare us for the some of the Heartbreak on the record it really surprised me in a good way when I got five or six songs into and I was like oh we're somewhere else now for a while really yeah oh my God no it was great did you get to sort of see Bruno do his thing or what yeah you did oh I did I remember the session and it was like obviously I was so nervous cuz here I'm still a like a fan right now I'm like I could be like Bruno cuz we're a bit close much closer now but he played like a few parts that he he thought like you know he's like what do you think of this and what do you think of that light and I was like wow I think it's great and he was like um let's record and so he like recorded me and oh my gosh I was so nervous I was so nervous cuz like by that time I'm like I'm I'm usually better than this in my head I'm like I'm better than this I'm just so nervous and I'm like failing at this line and he's like and he was vocal coaching me like Rosie you have to like throw it out there and I remember like I like choked on I choked on water accidentally before I had to record the bridge and then I was like he's like you have to you have to like shout it like hold on and he was like singing it and I'm like hold on cuz I choked on water and I was like by the way I just choked on water I don't usually tell man he's got all this on tape amazing no yeah and then he like started like picking up the guitar and like the like the bass and like play drums over it and and I was like wow he's he's a genius he's pretty good but you know what um I've watched Bruno Mar step into situations and unapologetically and without meaning to just dominate because he's just that good but I don't get that on AP at all um you know it's it's a pure collaboration and you know for what it's worth I mean it's your song he asked us to pitch him a few songs and at the time I laughed I was like oh my God just even sending it like I'm like he's never going to do it but like oh this is so fun we get to send Bruno Mars three songs and he asked for it oh my God and then we sent three songs and the first thing I got was he he texted what does AP mean and I was like it's a cre Jing he's like this is crazy like I'm so excited and then the rest is history like you know he's deeply curious and so that is definitely going to press a button it's going to pull lever for him right he's going to be like what is AP what does AP mean that's crazy you know it's it's fascinating to me that that you know you're in a situation where you're releasing a debut album and yet a lot of the world knows who you are and and recognizes you and I don't even know how how you kind of put into context or if you even consider what the level of social media following and the data and the numbers does that ever kind of do you even register that like what streams mean to you at this point when they're in the billions and I to be honest at this point I think I learned it through my fans my fans like put it in front of me I'm like oh apparently this is like really a big deal and they're like maybe you should post it I'm like oh yeah maybe I should I'm not like everyday checking these like charts and but then my fans obviously they bring it to me and I'm I'm like always like wow working yeah I mean for sure and that's one of the things I love about your fan base and in fact a lot of modern fan bases these days is there's a real sense of like we work with and for the artist right like your success is is important because you want we want you to keep going where do you feel it the most when you're in black pink when do you where do you feel the success most viscerally when do you realize it's really happening I think when we release a song and a video I think that's when it's like the most like they've been waiting for that moment um yeah every time and I know our fans are always like black pink takes so long to come out but you know when we do they like that's when you it's visible the most and you feel it the most I think that you know one of the things that's most exciting for for fans of black pink is that the music and the and the and the art is is super DED in but the Friendship is entirely believable because it's real and I think you know a lot of times we buy into this group mentality but we're not quite sure if it's real off stage and if it's real when when everyone's not working but you really do get a sense that the four of you um support each other in every way through this thing how important in your own words has that friendship being toward the success of the band I think it's been like more than I even expected I think cuz you know um usually we're in the same project and so it's very visible but then you notice it more because right now like we're we're all chasing after what we want you know what we really want to do and try out and there's no one better to understand what I'm going through as much as you know the the three other members like nobody's going to share the same experience and so when we do Link in between it's like it's the best conversations and that's when you know you're like my gosh I have three sisters that that that are like identical to me I feel like I have three three other twins basically and it was a it was a group decision to want to go away and make every everyone make their own record and do their own thing you you touched on that before and said I think the way you you worded it was like through all the success we kind of had the had the space and the and the kind of we took the moment to make that decision together so you you obviously kind of came to that conclusion for a reason and it's really kind of not a lot of people do that when they're coming off the back of a tour that biger fun two albums it's like keep going keep going a lot of times it breaks before it stops right and you chose to stop was what was kind of the motivation do you think if you could put it through your own through your own thinking for the group decision to make to to to to pause there what do you think really motivated it well I think all four of us are really really hardworking and we we had been at it back to back for eight years and even more like I trained with them for four lived with them for like like almost eight years and then um four years during chaines the training era so you know when you're working so hard on that project for so long there comes a time where like it's probably smart to now go and explore and and be inspired to come back instead of just pushing through it just doing it like a formula doing it like it's maths it's like we need we're we're 27 like I'm 27 like we're in now 20s we need to we need to now like go restructure grow and like Be Inspired so we can be energized to do even better to come back and you know what we have is just is is is irreplaceable so we're not going to throw it away no it's magic it is it's magic and and you know it's it's it reached the world for a reason did it give you a chance to kind of reflect and if so what did that feel like for the first time to actually take a step back and go okay like we have achieved an enormous amount because when you put it that like that 8 years and before that 8 years and then the training I mean it's it's more than half your life to be honest like as much as I just wanted to be like yes I'm so excited like like I finally got to do everything I wanted as much as I wanted that it was I think a lot of like I mentioned before vulnerability it's like starting to work walk again like on my two feet were you tired were you exhausted at the end of that tour did it feel like you needed to just take a beat yes on that yes and but then it's not like it was like just because I needed break on that this life is so much easier it's like this was like a whole different challenge but I feel like black pink is just we're all wired we're like we're all CRA we're all like so curious as well I think we're curious beings as to some people might feel like I just want to be comfortable because you know black pink we have like a whole setup and you know we're great but we could just keep going like that but I think everyone's curious and we need to feel like these things really like mean like matter to us and we're truthful to every decision we make and everything we do and so in order to do that even though it was challenging to you know take a break from for a year and like do everything um we all committed to it and I think black pink is black pink because of that all four of us are just really hardworking curious people and oh yeah what you bring back to the table when when it's time to come back together with after everyone's kind of gone down this road and had this great experience on their own terms it's it's going to it's going to elevate it so much higher than it already is just artistically before you even think about the numbers or whatever the math is it's going to be crazy you know you talk about curiosity what really fascinates you outside of just making music mus and things what do you find really fascinating lately it's been like what somebody can really achieve like if they put their mind to manifestation yeah cuz you can judge a book by its cover and be like he you know even me I I think a lot of people might have their doubts about how you know how successful something someone can be and from what kind of background they come from but just just it's like even it's it's interesting to see for myself too it's like if I put my mind to it even though I have a lot of moments where I feel like maybe I can't make it maybe I'm not good enough I have those moments of doubts but if I just really push through it and believe it just keep going at it and master it you know work on my craft just do it and and as and believe that as long as I believe in what I'm doing people will believe you know um CU even right now I know like we haven't really seen what's this what how many people liked it or anything but I'm proud of myself so the fact that I'm at a point where I'm like I am proud of myself for finishing this album it's just it's it's interesting to see how how much somebody can achieve when even in a lot of Doubt um from the world and others so yeah so who knows maybe next year I'll be like I'm going to become a painter but I don't know that's what I'm saying it's like you never know whatever you want you never know whatever you want crazy that's why manifest manifestation isn't broken down into like a single Lane like you only get to Manifest this you just got to be able to feel it yeah right at the end of the day mhm what is um what's life been like while you be making this record away from the studio like what is life like when it's just you do you like just are you comfortable in your like sitting still are you comfortable like is there anything resembling kind of just a day-to-day normal life for you at the moment oh my God it's just been work every single day stupid question but I mean at the end of the day it's what I I love to do and that's the only thing that makes me feel alive and like a person so you don't crave something just banale and simple at times to just be able to just switch off and not have to think about work I do but my life is right now it's for the past year it's been my music in my album so I've lived in it like actually but I have been dreaming of like a little vacation after this when was the last time you took a vacation I don't remember come on seriously that's why I'm asking I can't even think you like I don't what wait but what is the vacation I'm kind of I'm kind of tempted to just sit still and just just until you come up with an answer cuz I reckon it could take about 3 minutes and it might shock everybody I think like last year oh that's not too bad last year yeah yeah yeah yeah but I have to be lucky I noticed vacation in my life I have to be lucky there has to be like this time slot that like matches yeah it's not something like I think that's the one thing that people kind of who who get to sort of pick and choose their vacation time a little more liberally and everyone's got to work everyone's got to get by and people work hard in all walks of life every single second of the day right to keep the lights on on this planet but I think one thing that really kind of cuts through which I'm learning is is not how it was initially presented in my conversations with with some of the biggest Superstars coming out of Korea is that there's this idea that it's all just so in a grid and it's so framed out and there's no room for life outside of work and it's just work work work work work and but you're presenting a reality that you love to work but it's not like you don't seem to me and and even when I spoke John John Cook in career he was just like no I live a life like I have a life you know this idea that it's just work work work all the time I mean what is what is the reality for you as a member of the most one of the most successful you know female group of the modern times what is the reality of the of the of the work versus life balance it's like for me right now cuz I'm working the album I'm always like breathing and thinking like you know and I have like timelines like deadlines to to match at this point this past few months have been like that but then usually it's like it you know for me the past year it's been different to any other year I've had as black pink um it'd be it was out here I was going to the studio every day at like two like 12 or 2 like between 12:00 to 2: and I'd work on the music till like 7: 6: 7 and at that hour I don't really have too many friends on here so would just drive back home um I would eat there and then I'd drive back home and then we'd fall as I'd fall asleep at like 3: 4 on my terrible Instagram just hating yourself to sleep yes hating myself to S to sleep to prepare for myself for the next day and it was really back to back of that so there were even times where I would like I came out here for 14 days so I I booked a hotel for 14 days I had a session 14 days straight and I remember like I about I would say about like 10th song in I was like maybe I do need a weekend maybe I do get exhausted so let's cancel Saturdays and S Sundays and we did and then I it was crazy I like I found myself Saturday at like 700 p.m

2.in a different Studio finishing off a song I started the year a few months ago I get it and listen you know what I hear it and everyone's going to hear it I mean see I'm trying to say like I worked hard on and and I was exhausted like physically okay yeah but it was something like I was craving so bad like I just that's all I could think about I'm like they're like what do you want to do I'm like I have no idea what I don't even know what to do except for go eat Chinese hot pot and then we did it at like 2: p.m

3.and I was like what do we do now done that yeah and so I called um my producer and worked on I think it was um what song too good for too bad for us I was like we should finish that song yeah like I said it's one of my favorites oh really I love that record yeah um so you love this life until it gets until it's time to put it out to the world and have a little bit of vacation mentally I need to now like um I need some time off I need to be charged again um emotionally and physically um but I'll be back at it I'm a workaholic so probably already be like yes I need to write the next and it's always been like that you felt you've always had this insatiable desire to achieve yeah I think so kind of built like that I feel like that's probably not the best for me but I really feel like that's how I'm built at this point yeah yeah yeah will you tour This Record oh I would I would actually at this point love to I tried to sing at Acoustic I had like a guitarist like kind of learn it all and did like a little session and I was like how did that feel like I don't even know how to describe it just it was Unreal yeah I was really happy I can imagine especially the way that the records sound and how beautiful they sound well produced and everything else they just stripping them back down to the to the roest moment given they were WR written in the roest time was probably just a really lovely moment for you it was really rewarding yeah cuz I've covered so many songs acoustically it's just something I love to do is like what your favorite covers like private what do you love to play in just in your own time if you pick guitar what do you do there's oh there's like a version of uh PYT that I play on the guitar oh I played it for Bruno when I first met in and I was like let me impress you and I'm like this is probably the only song that I actually know how to play what' you say um he was like Wow Rosie you're like you can actually and I'm like uh don't worry it's just this one that looks cool it's like one of the songs you know how like everyone has that one song they play and makes you look really good you're like secretly I'm not that good I just know basic chords this is facts yeah PYT is like a song I love to play on the guitar guitar and Officially Missing You was like another cute one that I play and then like makes all the boys go like wow right oh my God you're hilarious um oh and I used to say I used to do price tag a lot like back in the day when I was a trainee which one price tag again how's that going money money money a about Jessie Jessie J that was from like our old friend Jessie J I love her I used to be obsessed with her yeah dude cuz she when she came out Jesse J was like bad pop person she was bad she was like kicked ass I remember I know yeah she's cool Jesse so like when I was 16 I flew over to um Korea and like it's like very basic cords and I like played and like all the girls would sing along be like that was your role it was yeah it was a yeah yeah it was my job it was my job your job like Rosie play something I'll be like money money I think blackpink even has like a video of it like we have this video of us like singing it somewhere like age is back like I mean that's that's actually that's a that's a good that's a good last question which is like you know you've lived your life in a way it's all been documented that's the crazy thing it all exists somewhere on the internet right the amount of footage and content that you've recorded with with your friends and and continue to do on your own terms do you ever think about that do you ever think about like the stuff that's just out there or do you is it just kind of it's just a given just like look man I did it it's out there it is what it is that performance I can't be embarrassed about a performance I did when I was 18 it doesn't really matter to me like it's it just outside out of mind because it is such a unique experience that's a really interesting question but I think like you said um they're more like bookmarks in our life so I'd see like a performance video of myself and like oh that was when happened so I like you said before I have a life outside of it but those are like bookmarks cuz we work so so much and so often and there are like all these footages but there is like a whole life behind it so it's like I would actually look at looks and be like oh my God that's when I was like going through like the worst time of my life I'm like I remember that too I had the biggest fight you know i' be like I was with the yeah with the X I remember then like I look so good considering how how broken I was this is the thing this's the thing we're all so scared like I think in in in certain Our Generation certainly where I'm from in New Zealand I don't know how you feel growing up in austral Asia but we like the idea of the internet when I was growing up was like that's terrifying like I when it arrived and I was already kind of in my 20s like this is terrifying like I don't want my whole life documented but I think it's if you actually kind of just go through it it is there's something kind of cool about just having these bookmarks in your life it's all kind of cataloged along the way and you can sort of trace your life I know I agree I kind of enjoy that am I weird as 3 in the morning where you're going yeah like oh that was when I I should really stop that that you should stop yeah I really should stop um you know what I've really enjoyed meeting you properly and I've really enjoyed our time talking and um and I think this album is going to make a lot of people really really happy how can it not I mean it's the most authentic you you could be at this moment in your life you've found none of this in so thank you so much for taking some time to talk with me at Apple music I know you're busy but we really appreciate it rosie no you're the best thank you guys thank you [Music]